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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Unconstitutionality of Article 1032]]></title>
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		<updated>2016-01-16T21:35:24Z</updated>
		<published>2016-01-16T21:35:24Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The issue&#8230; In my last post about the delay in publishing the “Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition,” I mentioned that a higher court in Jalisco had found that Article 1032 of the Jalisco Civil Code was unconstitutional. I’ve received a surprising number of enquiries for details about this, and thought it easiest to deal [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/unconstitutionality-of-article-1032/">Unconstitutionality of Article 1032</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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<h2>The issue&#8230;</h2>
<p>In my last post about the delay in publishing the “<em><strong>Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition</strong></em>,” I mentioned that a higher court in Jalisco had found that <strong>Article 1032 of the Jalisco Civil Code</strong> was unconstitutional. I’ve received a surprising number of enquiries for details about this, and thought it easiest to deal with it in another blog post.</p>
<p><strong>Article 1032</strong> is the civil code article that allows a condo to petition a judge to sell a unit at public auction if the owner repeatedly fails to pay fees, or violates other obligations.</p>
<h2>How we found this out&#8230;</h2>
<p>A condo decided to sue a particularly intransigent delinquent owner, and to rely on <strong>Article 1032</strong> to rid the condo of the problem owner. This type of lawsuit is usually faster than a typical suit for recovery of a debt. However, there were unusually lengthy delays in getting the documents reviewed and approved by the judge.</p>
<p>Working through a Guadalajara lawyer, we discovered that the local court had never had a suit like this before. In the past, local area condos had always just sued for the money owed. The judge, being unfamiliar with this article and its procedures, wanted more information before proceeding with the suit and the auction.</p>
<p>The lawyer did some searching in court records in Guadalajara to find an example case the judge could review.</p>
<p>He uncovered a case where a condo had successfully sued under <strong>Article 1032</strong>. The owner of the unit (a lawyer) had launched two appeals, which were denied. The auction was ordered to proceed, and a buyer was found. The owner launched one more appeal, and was, unfortunately, successful!</p>
<p>The argument he used in this final appeal was that, the way <strong>Article 1032</strong> is written, it precludes the owner from presenting a defence.</p>
<h2>The constitutional problem&#8230;</h2>
<p><strong>Article 1032</strong> just requires the condo to petition a judge with sufficient documentation, and if it has proven that it is a properly constituted condo, the identity of the titleholder, and that a repeated violation has occurred, the judge will then order the property to be sold at public auction. <strong>There is no provision in this article for any submission from the owner</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Article 14 of the Mexican Constitution</strong> establishes the key legal principle of <em>Seguridad Juridica</em> (Legal Certainty). When the state seeks to use <em><strong>privation</strong></em> against someone (the act of taking away property or rights), this can only be done by means of a trial held in front of the courts. There can only be a judgement imposed against the defendant if they are allowed to contradict that which they are accused of, or that which is demanded from them, and that they be allowed to defend their interests.</p>
<p>All laws passed in México must comply with this basic principle, and because <strong>Article 1032</strong> doesn’t allow for this (because it has a defect in its wording), the higher court deemed it unconstitutional.</p>
<h2>History of the case&#8230;</h2>
<p>The case in question occurred in the <strong>Ninth Civil Court</strong> in Guadalajara. The lawsuit was admitted, and, following <strong>Article 1032</strong> of the Civil Code and the corresponding civil procedures, the Judge gave the defendant a 5-day term to name his property appraiser. The defendant did not accomplish this. The defendant challenged the decision of the court, and the judge denied it, based on the way <strong>Article 1032</strong> was worded.</p>
<p>The defendant then filed an <em>amparo</em> lawsuit (a type of injunction on constitutional grounds) saying that <strong>Article 1032</strong> violates his human rights. The judge for the <em>amparo</em> suit did not grant a hearing because he felt that the procedural stage of the lawsuit did not permit such an appeal.</p>
<p>The Judge, following the rules in <strong>Article 1032</strong> and the associated civil procedures, received appraisals from the condo and from a court-appointed appraiser, and established the value of the property. The Judge then ordered that the property be put up for auction following the auction procedures set out in the <strong>Code of Civil Procedures</strong>.</p>
<p>A person was interested in buying the property, and presented an offer of purchase to the Judge. After publishing the required proclamations, they won the auction sale, and the property was ordered to be transferred to them as the new owner.</p>
<p>Later, the defendant filed another <em>amparo</em> to revise entirely <strong>Article 1032</strong> to comply with the constitutional principle that obliges the laws of all States of the Republic to not violate the Constitution. The judgement of the<strong> Fifth District Court in Civil Matters</strong> found that this article <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>does</strong></span> violate the principle of a hearing, since the article does not allow the defendant to be heard in a trial before receiving a judgement. This higher court ordered the judge in Guadalajara to abandon without effects all judicial acts in that judgement.</p>
<p>You can find the details in “<em><strong>Juicio de amparo indirecto 213/2012-III</strong></em>” (Judgement of Indirect Amparo 213/2012-III) published by the <strong>Juzgado Quinto de Distrito en Materia Civil en el Estado de Jalisco</strong> (Fifth District Court in Civil Matters of the State of Jalisco) on March 8, 2012.</p>
<h2>The ramifications&#8230;</h2>
<p>It is important to understand that this ruling <strong>does not change the Civil Code</strong>, nor does it create new law. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Article 1032</strong> still exists as written</span>.</p>
<p>However, if you use the procedure outlined in this article to sue a delinquent owner, and that owner appeals using this constitutional argument, you will likely lose your suit, and will have to pay the delinquent owner their legal costs, as well as being out of pocket for your own costs. If, as was the case for the Guadalajara condo, the case had proceeded to the auction stage, these out of pocket legal costs combined with the paid-out costs for the defendant were substantial (I believe about $70K to $80K pesos).</p>
<p>Until the state Congress rewrites this article, and modifies the Civil Code, a condo’s best approach may be just to sue the owner for the unpaid fees as a debt.</p>
<p>The problem with this is that, depending on the back-log of cases in the local court, this could take 1-1/2 to 2 years. It’s unlikely such an owner would pay fees during the duration of the suit. Therefore, if you won, you’d likely then have to initiate a new suit to recover these new unpaid fees. And on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>The ideal, in my opinion, is what was intended by <strong>Article 1032</strong> – removing the problem once and for all.</p>
<p>As I mentioned in my last post, we have a modified suit before the courts now that we hope will accomplish this goal, but which we hope cannot be overturned using this constitutional argument. Unfortunately, we don’t yet know if it will succeed. Once it has concluded, one way or another, I will include all the details of what we learned in the “<em><strong>Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition</strong></em>.”</p>
<p>We also intend to work to lobby the state legislature to make the necessary changes to the wording of <strong>Article 1032</strong> to make it comply with the Constitution. Although they are continually updating and changing the Civil Code, this issue is likely not high on their list of priorities. We hope to change this, and get it on their radar. However, this is a future project&#8230;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/unconstitutionality-of-article-1032/">Unconstitutionality of Article 1032</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Status of the “Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition”]]></title>
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		<updated>2016-01-07T14:58:39Z</updated>
		<published>2016-01-07T14:58:39Z</published>
		<category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="Condo Law" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="Corrections to Books" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="Delinquencies" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="Finances &amp; Budgets" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="debt collection" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="delinquent owners" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="legal technicality" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="new book" /><category scheme="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/" term="taxes" />
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<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/status-of-the-jalisco-condo-manual-second-edition/">Status of the “Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition”</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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<p><b>The</b><i><b> “</b></i><strong><em>Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition</em></strong><i><b>”</b></i><b> was originally scheduled to be published in </b><strong>July, 2015</strong><b>. </b>Unfortunately, there has been a significant delay in this new edition because we need to include details from two ongoing and important issues:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. We are currently walking a condo through the entire process of SAT registration, bank account set-up, contracting of an accountant, and regular financial reporting – to be sure they fully comply with the new tax laws. Once this is done, we&#8217;ll have a detailed real-world guide on how to do this for the new edition of the book. Not surprisingly, this is taking longer than expected.</p>
<p>2. A high court in Jalisco has ruled that <strong>Article 1032</strong> (that allows a condo to sell the property of a delinquent owner at public auction) is unconstitutional as written. Because this is such a key article, as well as a vital weapon in a condo&#8217;s arsenal against delinquencies, this has significant impact on how to sue a delinquent owner. We are walking a test case through the Jalisco courts with a modified method of suing that we believe circumvents the legal problem. Once we figure out how this can be done successfully, with the end result being the removal of the delinquent owner from the condo, we&#8217;ll include complete details and procedures in the new edition. The case is progressing well, but such things always take longer than you might expect.</p></blockquote>
<p>Since these are both vital issues affecting condos, we have decided to wait until we have all the information before completing the new edition. This will make the new book much better and more relevant! Unfortunately, at the time of writing this post, we are still a few months away. We believe that the finished product, however, will be worth the delay.</p>
<p>We hope you understand, and thank you for your patience.</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/status-of-the-jalisco-condo-manual-second-edition/">Status of the “Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition”</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[&#8220;Jalisco Condo Law in English &#8211; Second Edition&#8221; Has Been Released!]]></title>
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		<updated>2015-05-04T17:36:06Z</updated>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is an updated version of the first edition published in 2011. It has improved translations plus six new sections with 80+ more pages of even more laws relevant to the administration of a condo. It includes the new 2014 tax laws! Since the first edition was published in June of 2011, legislation has been [&#8230;]</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/jalisco-condo-law-in-english-second-edition-has-been-released/">&#8220;Jalisco Condo Law in English &#8211; Second Edition&#8221; Has Been Released!</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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<p>This is an updated version of the first edition published in 2011. It has improved translations plus six new sections with 80+ more pages of even more laws relevant to the administration of a condo. <strong>It includes the new 2014 tax laws</strong>!</p>
<p>Since the first edition was published in June of 2011, legislation has been amended, and we&#8217;ve discovered more laws that are relevant to condo administration. We&#8217;ve also improved the translation and notes of the existing chapters based on experience, plus feedback and questions from users of the first edition.</p>
<p>Throughout the book, text and translations were edited for more clarity and additional detail; pronoun references were improved; inline notes in the translations were added or expanded to more fully explain concepts of legal terms and processes; and typefaces were changed to make the book easier to read.</p>
<p>Six new sections were added with new translations of relevant laws:</p>
<ol>
<li><strong>Part 5 – Obligations of Neighbours</strong>: contains rules in the Jalisco Civil Code that neighbours living anywhere (inside or outside of a condo) must follow.</li>
<li><strong>Part 9 – Legal Signatures &amp; Electronic Transmissions</strong>: contains the Jalisco Civil Code definitions of a legal signature, and articles that allow proxies to be emailed or faxed.</li>
<li><strong>Part 11 ‐ Limitations on Collecting Debts</strong>: contains the Jalisco Civil Code section that restricts collecting fees from delinquent owners to two years.</li>
<li><strong>Part 12 – Income Tax &amp; IVA</strong>: contains the 2014 federal laws governing the income tax, bank account, and IVA (value added tax) obligations of a condo.</li>
<li><strong>Part 13 – Rules for Public Property Auctions</strong>: contains the state laws governing the public auction held when a condo has forced the sale of a property under Jalisco Civil Code Article 1032.</li>
<li><strong>Part 14 – Preventative Injunctions for Lawsuits</strong>: contains the state laws governing methods of protecting the condo&#8217;s interests when forcing the sale of a property by preventing title changes, liens, mortgages, or other encumbrances during the process.</li>
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<p>Significant edits and improvements were also made to many other parts of the original text.</p>
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<p>For more info on buying this book, ordering it in Mexico, or upgrading from the First Edition, check out the “<em>Our Books</em>” section on our new updated website: <strong><a href="http://jaliscocondos.org/#books" target="_blank">jaliscocondos.org</a></strong></p>
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<h2>Further News&#8230;</h2>
<p>The “<em><strong>Jalisco Condo Manual in English – Second Edition</strong></em>” was <strong>rated a #1 Hot New Release on Amazon!</strong></p>
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<strong>Another updated book</strong>: The “<em><strong>Jalisco Condo Manual – Second Edition</strong></em>” is expected by <strong>July 2015</strong>.</p>
<p>Coming Late This Year – we&#8217;re launching an exciting new development for condo owners and administrators – an <strong>online version</strong> of the <em><strong>“Jalisco Condo Law in English – Second Edition</strong></em>.”</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/jalisco-condo-law-in-english-second-edition-has-been-released/">&#8220;Jalisco Condo Law in English &#8211; Second Edition&#8221; Has Been Released!</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[Boards Must Hold Open Meetings]]></title>
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		<updated>2014-07-13T17:37:33Z</updated>
		<published>2014-07-09T16:28:38Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>In the “Jalisco Condo Manual,” I say that all board meetings must be open, and that owners must be allowed to come. So&#8230; where is this in the state condo law? If you’re looking for a specific article in the Condo Law that directly says this, you’ll be disappointed. It’s one of those things that [&#8230;]</p>
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<p>In the “<em><strong>Jalisco Condo Manual</strong></em>,” I say that all board meetings must be open, and that owners must be allowed to come.</p>
<p>So&#8230; where is this in the state condo law?</p>
<p>If you’re looking for a specific article in the Condo Law that directly says this, you’ll be disappointed. It’s one of those things that are derived from other requirements in the legislation. We’ll go over these in this article.</p>
<p>The other related issue I want to bring up is that of transparency.</p>
<h2>What does the condo Board do?</h2>
<p>While this might seem obvious, I’m convinced that many people don’t understand this. Unfortunately, some of them are on condo Boards.</p>
<p>The Board is elected each year for a one-year term by the owners. This happens at the Annual Ordinary Assembly. The Board should be given powers of representation by this assembly – this gives them the ability to act for the condo in legal and administrative matters beyond the condo’s walls.</p>
<p>In simple terms, the Board is responsible, with the Administrator, for looking after the ongoing repair and maintenance of the common property, and carrying out any directives given by the owners at an assembly.</p>
<p>The state condo law says that the Board must: act for the owners in matters of their common interest; make sure that the Administrator complies with his/her obligations; meet at least once a month to examine the state of the condo accounts and their proper entry into the financial records of the condo; and fulfil their obligations together with the Administrator under observance by the owners.</p>
<p>The Board can also have other duties and abilities that are defined in the condo By-laws. However, these must be additional to, and cannot contradict or remove, the duties and authorities given by the state condo law (or any other higher laws).</p>
<h2>Why must board meetings be open?</h2>
<p>The state condo law clearly says that the Board must work with the Administrator to carry out their obligations <strong>under observance by the owners</strong>.</p>
<p>Since the only forum in which the administration discusses condo issues and makes decisions about them is the board meeting, it’s rather hard to imagine how this requirement can be met with closed board meetings!</p>
<p>Given this, it also stands to reason that owners must be given adequate notice of the time and place, along with an invitation to be there. While it’s possible that no owners will show up, they must be given the opportunity to do so. If not, they’re being deprived of their legal right to oversight.</p>
<h2>Condo records are the owners’ property</h2>
<p>Some secretive, non-transparent Boards seem to also want to prevent owners from inspecting the records of the condo. In my opinion, they cannot do this.</p>
<p>The state condo law calls for a minimum of three specific kinds of records to be kept as part of the condo’s permanent records: minutes of all assemblies, with attachments; minutes of all board meetings, with attachments (financial and other reports, quotes, letters, emails, and all other documents presented or discussed at the meeting); and financial records of all income and expenses. By law, these financial records must be up to date within 15 days after the latest expense has been paid.</p>
<p>These records are the property of the condo, and not the Board or the Administrator. Both the Board and the Administrator are transient (they each serve a one-year term), and the Administrator must turn over all condo records in his/her possession to their successor.</p>
<p>As condo property, the records are the property of the owners (since the condo cannot own anything). Owners cannot be denied access to property they co-own.</p>
<h2>What’s transparency?</h2>
<p>Although not yet reflected in the condo law, transparency is the cornerstone of modern administrative practice.</p>
<p>In Mexico, recent legislation has imposed an impressive transparency model on both the federal government and non-profits. State governments are rapidly following this lead, and at least one municipality (Tlajamulco) has passed ground-breaking transparency legislation.</p>
<p>Although governments are taking the lead with this, a move towards greater or full transparency should be the goal of every administrative body (such as a condo board).</p>
<p>The ideal of transparency is that all decisions to be taken by an administrative body must be placed under scrutiny by its stakeholders, and in the widest possible sense. A condo board is an ideal candidate for this goal, since it’s much more similar to a municipal government than to a corporate body.</p>
<p>Great! However, understanding transparency is much easier than carrying it out. Many administrative bodies have fallen into set routines, even if they are against the law.</p>
<p>To some, the appeal of a culture of administrative secrecy is high. Especially to those personalities who enjoy exercising power and control.</p>
<p>Laziness is also a significant element. It takes more effort to make sure that the rationale for decisions is recorded, that supporting documents exist in the records, and that everyone has access to this data.</p>
<p>In the 21st century, no one disputes that transparency is essential to modern democracy (yes, a condo <strong>is</strong> a democracy). Unfortunately, many people only fully support transparent practices up until they have to follow them.</p>
<p>All this is especially true of condo boards. This status quo is a very difficult thing to change. The administrative culture in many condos directly contradicts the concepts of transparency.</p>
<h2>Building transparency for owner oversight</h2>
<p>Since the goal of all condo boards should be to administer their condo in a transparent way (owners should be <strong>very</strong> concerned if this is not the case!), there are steps a Board can take to go beyond the bare necessity of giving owners oversight.</p>
<p>For example, a Board should include an Agenda for each board meeting with the meeting notice sent to the owners. Following good practice for effective meetings, an Agenda should have been prepared before the meeting for the board members anyway (so that they can prepare for the meeting). It’s just a matter of distributing it more widely.</p>
<p>This also gives the owners an opportunity to have items put on the Agenda for discussion by the Board. Many Boards forget that they&#8217;re <strong>elected by the owners to represent their common interests</strong>. The Board cannot ignore valid concerns of owners.</p>
<p>It’s also a good idea to send out a draft of the board meeting minutes to the owners (by email, or posted on the condo web site) as soon as possible after the meeting. These should include all attachments, just as they will be entered in the condo records.</p>
<p>This lets those owners who couldn’t be there (especially those who were out of the country) know what was discussed at the board meeting, and what decisions were made. Apart from increasing transparency, this also <strong>guarantees that oversight by the owners, as required by law, is possible for those who could not physically be at the board meeting</strong>.</p>
<p>The state condo law requires the Board to meet at least once a month to receive the Administrator’s monthly financial report, and to verify the state of the condo’s accounts and their correct entry into the condo’s financial records.</p>
<p>Beyond being a legal requirement, this is an excellent and necessary management tool so that the Board can monitor the actual expenses of the condo vs. the budget approved by the owners. If condo finances start going wrong, this trend can be identified, and corrective measures taken, before it gets out of hand.</p>
<p>This financial report must be attached to the minutes of the monthly meeting in which it was presented, both for the permanent condo records and the owners inspection (that pesky oversight again!).</p>
<p>While the condo law only says that the quarterly financial report must be made available to any owner who requests it, I recommend that these reports should also be automatically sent to owners either by email or posting it on the condo web site. This extra step is proactive, and goes towards achieving the goal of transparency. Besides, the financial report shows how the Board is managing the owner&#8217;s money, and there certainly should be nothing to hide!</p>
<h2>Summary</h2>
<p>By law, the board and Administrator must carry out their duties <strong>under the observance of the owners</strong>. Condo records, of which board meeting minutes and financial reports are a part, are the owners’ property, and owners cannot be prevented from accessing them.</p>
<p>In my opinion, this means, at a minimum, holding open and announced board meetings, and making the minutes of these meetings available to the owners.</p>
<p>I also strongly believe in going further than this minimum to create an administration that is as open and transparent as possible. This costs nothing, increases the sense of community (which a condo <strong>is</strong>!), and contributes to a feeling of inclusiveness by the owners. That should be what everyone in the community wants.</p>
<h2>WARNING: Rant Ahead!</h2>
<p>This next bit is a bit harsh. However, this is something I feel strongly about&#8230;</p>
<p>In my opinion, we all must question the motives of those who want to run a community by a secretive body, with closed meetings and little or no owner oversight. If this happens, it isn’t at all unreasonable for owners to wonder, “<em>What are they hiding</em>?”</p>
<p>I feel that this practice not only goes against the intent of the law, but creates an unhealthy and adversarial relationship between the Board and the owners whom it serves.</p>
<p>I know of no rational reason to leave owners out of the process of administering their own property. Nor can I imagine any legitimate business operation or process associated with the management of a condo that should be hidden from the owners. Certainly, I’ve yet to hear any reason for this behaviour that makes sense.</p>
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		<title type="html"><![CDATA[How to Satisfy the Legal Requirement of a Minute Book for Board Minutes]]></title>
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		<id>http://jaliscocondos.org/blog/?p=602</id>
		<updated>2013-10-01T15:01:59Z</updated>
		<published>2013-10-01T14:38:35Z</published>
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		<summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why do you need to keep board minutes? Your condo is required by Article 1012 of the Civil Code to keep minutes of every council (board) meeting, along with their attachments. These minutes are an important part of your condo’s records that: are a permanent and legal record of the proceedings of each board meeting; [&#8230;]</p>
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<h2>Why do you need to keep board minutes?</h2>
<p>Your condo is required by <strong>Article 1012 of the Civil Code</strong> to keep minutes of every council (board) meeting, along with their attachments. These minutes are an important part of your condo’s records that:</p>
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<li>are a permanent and legal record of the proceedings of each board meeting;</li>
<li>record the decisions made by the Board, how they were made, and any resulting actions taken by them;</li>
<li>clarify what happened at a meeting for those who weren&#8217;t there;</li>
<li>document actions that are required to fulfil the board&#8217;s legal duties;</li>
<li>help orient new board members and owners to past issues facing the condo; and</li>
<li>are a useful management tool for evaluating the work of the Board.</li>
</ul>
<p>Legally, minutes can be inspected by owners, and <strong>used in court as evidence</strong>. As legally required official records, courts can consider the contents of board minutes when deciding a lawsuit.</p>
<p>Minutes can be used to prove that board members fulfilled their legal obligations (such as meeting once a month), and have carried out their duty of care to the condo. A condo Board&#8217;s duty of care to the owners has at its core: active, informed, conscientious, inquiring, and impartial service. Therefore, board minutes can show that a board or committee took reasonable steps to be informed, and to carefully consider relevant issues before making a decision.</p>
<h2>What form must your board minutes be in?</h2>
<p>This article of the condo law also says that board minutes must be kept in <strong>a bound minute book signed on its first page by the municipal government</strong>. Such books are readily available at <em>papelerías</em> (stationery stores), and are designed to have hand-written entries (although this isn’t a requirement of the law).</p>
<p>While this might seem odd, it&#8217;s not at all unusual. Some regional legislation north of the border calls for similar practices in association and corporate statutes.</p>
<p>The intent of this requirement is simple: minute books have bound pages as a reliable way to prevent tampering (such as changing the minutes after they&#8217;ve been approved).</p>
<p>In the 21st century, there are disadvantages to this requirement:</p>
<ul>
<li>most people today prefer to use a notebook or tablet, and not to hand write anything;</li>
<li>it’s impossible to circulate DRAFT minutes to the meeting participants for review and comment; and</li>
<li>hand-written minutes are often not legible, and can’t be reproduced easily or well.</li>
</ul>
<p>Electronic devices are excellent and efficient tools for minute taking because they make editing, copying, and sharing of the minutes easy. How, then, can we reconcile modern technology with the aims of the condo law?</p>
<p>While minutes could be taken electronically, edited, circulated in DRAFT, and sent to owners (or posted on a web site), and then transcribed by hand into a bound book, this is rather tedious and prone to errors.</p>
<h2>Adopt a sequential numbering system</h2>
<p>One of the main goals of this legislation is to prevent tampering by removing or adding pages. Adopting a sequential numbering system for your board minutes goes a long way towards meeting this need.</p>
<p>In this system:</p>
<ol>
<li>Each board meeting is given a number, and this is included in the title at the top of the first page of the minutes. For example, “<em><strong>Minutes of the 29th Board Meeting of Condominio Vista del Basurero</strong></em>.” By doing this, no meetings can be erased from history, and no extra meetings can be added.</li>
<li>Each page of a set of minutes is numbered sequentially in the footer. Add the meeting number to this page number as a prefix. For example, the pages of the minutes in the point above would be in the form: “<strong>29-1</strong>, <strong>29-2</strong>, <strong>29-3</strong>, <strong>29-4</strong>&#8230;” As further security against tampering, add the page count to each page, such as: &#8220;<strong>29-3 (of 6)</strong>.&#8221;</li>
<li>The heading for each item of business in the body of the minutes is also sequentially numbered. These item numbers also include the meeting number as a prefix. For example, “<em><strong>29.3 Adoption of the Agenda</strong></em>;  <em><strong>29.4 Approval of Minutes of the Last Meeting</strong></em>;  <em><strong>29.5 Administrator’s Report</strong></em>&#8230;”</li>
</ol>
<p>With this system, each set of minutes starts with the title (containing the meeting number) and ends at the signature block. Each page and each item of business is sequentially numbered in a way that uniquely ties it to this one set of minutes. This makes it difficult for someone to tamper with the minutes. Further a collection of these sets of minutes (such as, a given year) is also sequentially numbered and difficult to tamper with.</p>
<h2>Have the approved minutes double signed</h2>
<p>When an approved set of minutes is printed to be archived in the condo records, have it signed by <strong>both</strong> the <strong>Chair and the Secretary of the meeting</strong> in the signature block on the last page. <strong>This must include the date they signed the minutes</strong>. Further, they must <strong>both sign each of the other pages in the margin</strong>.</p>
<p>This is standard practice in Mexico for legal documents, and makes it difficult for anyone to put in an altered page.</p>
<h2>How do you meet the minute book requirement with computer-generated board minutes?</h2>
<p>There are two possibilities:</p>
<ol>
<li>glue the printed minutes (and all pages of the attachments) into sequential pages of a bound minute book; or</li>
<li>keep them in a loose-leaf binder during the year, and have them bound at the end of each year (or periodically during the year).</li>
</ol>
<p>Gluing the pages into a minute book most closely satisfies the spirit and intent of the law.</p>
<p>Keeping them in a loose-leaf binder can be a dangerous choice, because anyone can just take out a page and put another in its place. For this reason, <strong>it&#8217;s vital that you adopt the numbering and signing systems I&#8217;ve mentioned above.</strong></p>
<p>If you choose this route, I also strongly recommend that the binder be a <strong>temporary repository only for the current year</strong> (or part of it). At the end of the fiscal year, have the year&#8217;s minutes bound into a single volume. During the year, the loose-leaf minute binder must be properly secured on the condo property, and not accessible to anyone but board members. The requirements of owner access can be satisfied by making electronic copies available by email or on the condo website.</p>
<p>Book binding services are usually available in most cities from business printers. Look in the <em>Sección Amarilla</em> (Yellow Pages) under “<em>Imprentas y Encuadernaciones</em>” (Printers and Book Binders). Since notarios regularly have their protocol books bound, you could ask your notario to recommend a company.</p>
<p>Make sure that the binding method you choose is permanent. Spiral or cirlock bindings (where pages can be removed) are not acceptable. If your minutes have a lot of attachments, and an entire year would be too thick, bind them into six-month, four-month, or three-month groups, as needed.</p>
<p>Whether you glue them into a bound minute book, or have them bound on an annual basis, don&#8217;t forget to include the attachments (financial and other reports, quotes, emails). Have the book signed by the municipal government. These two things are required by law.</p>
<h2>Avoid the minute book requirement by having board minutes certified by a notario</h2>
<p>This article of the Civil Code also says that if you cannot enter the minutes into a bound minute book for any reason (being impractical is a reason), then, for these minutes to be valid, they must be protocolised by a notario having residence in your jurisdiction.</p>
<p>This means that you can take the final printout of your minutes to a notario and have him protocolise them. You’ll then have a stamped and signed official copy, and the original will be bound into the notario’s protocol book.</p>
<p>If you adopt this route, then you need to budget several hundred pesos per month to protocolise your monthly board minutes.</p>
<p>Also be aware that if your minutes are in English, the notario might insist on translating them before protocolising them. This should not be strictly necessary, because <strong>you won’t be publicly registering them</strong>.</p>
<p>Alternatively, you could have the notario certify a printed and signed copy of the minutes. He&#8217;ll stamp and counter-sign each page, and attach a certificate. I don&#8217;t know if this satisfies the Civil Code requirement for &#8220;protocolisation.&#8221; Ask your notario.</p>
<h2>What happens if your condo doesn’t comply?</h2>
<p>Let’s say you don’t do any of these things. You just keep unbound printouts of your board meetings in your records. Are the Condo Police going to raid your office, and cart the Administrator off to jail?</p>
<p>No. You can probably get away with this for years, with no apparent problems.</p>
<p>However, if you get involved in a lawsuit where you need to rely on the board minutes to prove your side of the issue, you’ll find them inadmissible, and you won’t be able to use them to support your legal argument. Further, the fact that you’ve kept improper records might cause the court to find against you.</p>
<h2>Retention of board minutes</h2>
<p>These binders and minute books are part of the condo&#8217;s legally required records, along with the assembly minutes and the financial reports. They’re the historical record of the condo, and must be securely stored and not destroyed. They must also be accessible to any owner who wants to see them.</p>
<p>In my opinion, minutes kept only in the form of electronic documents do not meet the requirements of the condo law. As well, electronic storage does not guarantee long-term preservation of your records because of changes in technology (a word processor ten years from now might not be able to read today’s files) and the degeneration of the computer media (hard drives fail, and CDs and DVDs can lose their data over time).</p>
<p>The post <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog/satisfy-legal-requirement-minute-book-board-minutes/">How to Satisfy the Legal Requirement of a Minute Book for Board Minutes</a> appeared first on <a href="https://jaliscocondos.org/blog">JaliscoCondosOrg Blog</a>.</p>
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